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Hi, I'm coming long distance in California.

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Yes.

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I have never seen anything,

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pertaining to any UFO or anything until two days ago.

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And I saw something and I've been looking in the paper to see if anyone else has seen it.

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And I haven't found anything.

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Okay, could we have a description?

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Okay, this was Tuesday, October the 5th,

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at approximately 5 a.m. in Sifika, California.

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And what I saw was something very bright orange,

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and it was sort of square shaped.

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But it reminded me of like when the sun comes up in the east,

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this looked like it was going down, like by the ocean.

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And it wasn't completely square.

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The corners were a little bit raised up.

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And I drove about a mile down to the, I saw this coming down a hill.

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And I drove about a mile down farther to look right at the ocean.

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And when I had gone down to the bottom where the ocean is, it had completely disappeared.

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Another, something that happened, I thought was strange.

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I had only driven about eight blocks when I had seen it.

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And all of a sudden there was an awful lot of fog like in my car,

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but there was no fog outside.

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I mean it was very clear outside.

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Okay, could you feel anything unusual physically?

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No, in a little while I was very tired though.

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I mean I was really exhausted.

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I was driving across the Bay Bridge,

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and I was so tired I felt like I was going to have to stop and sleep.

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And I mean I'm sure of what I, I don't know what I saw,

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but I know that I saw something.

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Now when you first spotted this object, was it on the move?

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No, no. It was stationary.

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And then you took off after it, right?

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Well I drove down the bottom of the hill.

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And I went to the ocean.

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I thought I'd get a better look of it.

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And it could completely vanish.

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And then I turned around to come back up the hill.

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And maybe I could only see it from one position.

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And I couldn't find it at all then.

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That was it.

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Okay, was there other traffic on the road?

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No, not another car.

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Not one more thing.

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And I've been reading the papers the last two days,

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and I haven't seen a thing about it.

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Wouldn't that lack of traffic be a little unusual down there?

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Oh no, not where I'm coming from.

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Oh I see, okay.

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Yeah, it's before you get to the freeway.

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Oh, okay.

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And I was on my way up to Sacramento.

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But it took a small road probably two miles long

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that I was on.

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I see, okay.

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And when I had turned around to come back up the hill,

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then two cars went down.

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But I don't know if anything was better.

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I called the police and they said they didn't have any reports of anything here.

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Okay, now is this a very brilliant type of...

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Very bright orange.

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Very bright.

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Now, how was it in relation to altitude?

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Was it very low?

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It was very low.

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It was like right at sea level.

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It looked like, you know, when I say it's square,

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it's like part of it was cut off,

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and part was below,

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and then part was above the sea level.

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I see.

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I just drove two miles from the ocean.

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And like I said, it reminded me.

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And then as I traveled towards Sacramento that day,

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I saw the sun come up.

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And it reminded me of that,

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only when the sun comes up, it gets quite bright around the sun.

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But this, there was no brightness around it at all.

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It was just orange, very orange.

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And was the brightness confined to the object?

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Yes.

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Didn't illuminate anything around it?

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No, no, not at all.

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But like I said, the sides of it had gone up a little bit

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to make it not exactly square.

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But, I don't know.

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That's my first experience.

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Okay, now in your estimate,

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estimation, can you give me an example of how big that was?

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Could you compare it with anything?

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Oh, Lord.

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I really, I really just dig.

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You know, I really figured it would be like the size of a sun coming up.

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Okay.

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Only square.

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Okay.

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And just very orange.

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Okay.

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Do you feel that it was quite a ways away from you?

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No, it seemed to be that far away.

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That's why I went down to the bottom of the hill,

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to go to the ocean.

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Because I thought, you know, it was a really good look at it.

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I mean, I had no idea, of course, what it was.

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And I thought, well, if I go down the bottom of the hill,

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I'll be much closer and I'll see it.

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And as we're there, I never saw another thing.

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Okay, have you had any problems since that experience?

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Like what?

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Any strange dreams or any unusual physical or mental sensations of any kind?

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No, no.

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The thing was being so very tired.

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And I just gotten up.

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I mean, I hadn't just got up.

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I'd done everything before.

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But when I was driving across the bridge, which was probably 5.30,

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I was just so tired.

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I thought, my gosh, I'm going to have to stop on the bridge and sleep.

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Any problems with the car?

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No, no.

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Okay.

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Well, how could I possibly have steamed it up that much?

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I mean, like in three seconds.

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Right.

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And it still, we had quite a bit of fog here close to the ocean.

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But it was very clear that night.

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Well, 5 in the morning, but it was still very clear outside.

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And it just struck me, see, how could I be so foggy inside?

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Or steamed up, or I didn't have my disaster on.

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But I didn't need it, you know, until that point.

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Right.

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And no problems with the car?

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No.

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Okay.

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Engine, everything is running okay.

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Okay.

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Well, we sure appreciate this call.

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And if we get any additional information on this incident,

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or if you're caught with any other witnesses,

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well, I will get back to you and let you know.

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Yeah, okay.

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That's it.

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I stopped my call, but I didn't know.

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You know, like I said, I've been reading the papers to have a good thing.

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Right.

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It's other people I've got to see, I don't think.

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Yes, and that's our big problem, getting other people to call, see.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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They're still afraid of ridiculing and so forth.

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Yeah.

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Well, I'm going to have to get some books and start reading up, I think.

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You know, you don't get interested until you have an experience like this.

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Right.

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And I want to find out all I can.

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I told one cell in, he said that that can happen, though,

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that sometimes only one person might see it.

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Does that sound right?

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We've heard this, but in our research, we haven't found that this is so.

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Okay, well, fine.

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Thank you very much.

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Thanks again.

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Okay, bye-bye.